Films of the Living Dead - Blog post #1

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After the actor Peter Cushing gave a performance from beyond the grave in the film Rogue One, The Guardian asks some interesting questions about film and its future. It became even more relevant after the unexpected death of Carrie Fisher.

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Which Leia is real and which is digital?

Read the article then in one paragraph post your thoughts about what was discussed.  Click on this link to read the article, then post your comment.

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Your Name
Teacher's Name
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Date (day, month, year with no commas)

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Peter Parker
Mr. Scheuer
Modern Fiction - Hour 1 (your choices: 6 or 8)
28 September 2017

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Comments

  1. Luke Czaplewski
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 6
    23 August 2017

    I believe that movie studios should only use this kind of technology in extreme circumstances, like an actor dying mid shoot. However, if an actor is still alive and just has a busy schedule, like Cumberbatch, movie studios should refrain from using this “ghosting” technique, due to it being such a new form of movie making. For example, if you compare photos of the CGI Carrie Fisher and Peter Cushing to real photos, you can easily tell which is CGI and which is real. However, since they have both passed away, there would not be any real footage of the actors in future movies, if Disney chose to continue to use their likenesses. But, since Cumberbatch is alive and well, it might be more noticeable when a CGI version of him is being used. When this technology has been perfected, to a point where the CGI and the real actor are almost indistinguishable, then producers should be allowed to use it at their leisure.

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  2. Rocky Ho
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 6
    23 August 2017

    It's pretty cool seeing your favorite actors being back on movies again but the actors aren't exactly the same as before. You can think it as Hollywood are manipulating their dead bodies so they can continue their series or movies. It's technically the same concept as if someone who is a look-a-like character, except they're not real human. I personally don't care that much about this but it's pretty useful because the main purpose of this technology was to bring back a character from a movie. I don't find it creepy, they're gone but not forgotten.

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  3. Tiana Riley
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction-Hour 8
    August 25 2017

    I think that the fact that actor/actress didn't have to ACTUALLY be on set in order to be in a movie is outrageous. Your not really working for the money your earning if that is the case. People now and days would DIE for an opportunity like that just to see how acting genuinely is about. Another point I would comment on is the producer's and other cast members on set to generate the movie using technology. It seems like technology made everything so elementary. I feel like without that every thing probably would be made by hand and not much good quality. Today in our generation I see that movies have gotten better imagery and meaning to the script. Being able to understand the story is one thing but having good ratings on it is another. Sticking to what they've got going on with the imagery is good having the actors/actress more involved would be even better.

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  4. Lizandro Prado
    Mr.Scheuer
    Modern Fiction-Hour 8
    August 24, 2017

    I think the whole idea of using CGI to “resurrect” the dead actors is pretty cool, but, I for one would not appreciate someone using technology to make me do something I didn’t do. They could basically make it look like you committed a crime when you were sitting on your couch doing nothing. I think the fans for the movies included were happy to see the actors, but if I were the actors, I would not appreciate the CGI technology to make me do anything. And they use sound bytes to make you even say things you haven’t said. It’s amazing what technology can do but if I’m not controlling anything, count me out.

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  5. Raymond Truong
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - 6th hr
    24th August 2017

    I think what the article talked about was fascinating but also horrifying for me. I love many actors and actresses in many different movies. If one day knowing that person is no longer able to participate in a movie due to age or death, many fans would be upset. With this new technology, it was and will further recreate certain actors images and fully mimic their ability to act. The scary factor of this new technology is much like cloning. Of course it doesn't get that serious, yet. But knowing this is an option, the audience will see the movie not like before. They know and understand that they're watching something made by computers. Movies are to be created with humans, to create opportunities for new actors and actresses. With these new techs, nothing is original, organic and pure. What is classic should be kept that way.

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  6. Ramone Hannah
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction
    8th hour
    I feel that the "ghosting" film method can be either a great breakthrough in film technology or it can become a really bad situation. I'd say that it could become a great breakthrough because it may help build story lines or properly end the movie with the deceased actors' face/ body to keep the views entertained . Also seeing the same actor instead of recasting for a specific person you can use their "ghost" to keep the viewers from being confused on characters. On the other hand it can be really bad if the movie director uses the deceased actors face with out the family's permission because that most likely would end a lawsuit; which wouldn't be a good time for anyone. As well as no one wanting to watch anymore of the directors movies because of his decision and cold heartedness. As for me I would be okay with it if my family would be able to read the script and make the decision if it's okay. As well as my family should get a check because they used my face. 😊

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  7. Jacob price
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 6
    28 September 2017

    To me, this is a way that could help us break even more barriers in the world of film. What I mean is that ever since "ghosting" in films became possible, it was so much easier to either tie up a story or help out current films that either have actors in it who are not with us, or actors who have different roles to fill, this is going to change how film is produced. And yes it may seem controversial, due to the fact that the're using the likeness of actors who passed away, and using them for a film that they didn't sign up for, but in reality they did. Actors sign a contract that specifically says that company's would be able to use there likeness or presence for future films if the do die or cant partake in the film. In the end though, this is all part of the movie industry, and we might not be able to perfectly copy a persons appearance, but we are very close, and once we hit that mark, it will change the game of film forever.

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  8. Noulown, Mr.Scheuer, Modern Fiction hr 8. I think that "ghosting" is wrong because they are not working for their own money. I feel that ghosting is an easy way of getting money for those who are still alive, but for those who are dead it's really wrong unless you get their concent before they die that you can use them in that one movie. What I really think though is that if they're dead then they should stay that way and shouldn't be making any movies any more, why because they died for a reason, and God has his own plans in mind and no matter what we do we can't stop him.

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  9. Rayna Nickson
    Mr.Scheuer
    Modern Fiction 8th Hour
    27 August 2017

    As I read the article my head went into two different directions. I feel that they are using the original characters because they are trying to keeo the movies as close to the originals as possible. I know from the personal view of someone who is a fan of originals; it is always hard to see a new film with new people. I don't like it to the point I won't even watch the movie. Now although i think it is pretty cool that we have technology in todays generation to keep those actors and actresses in films, I also think it is disrespectful. Although these actors and actresses make up the film...if they are dead it's not fair to them because they cant voice their opinion. I think we should just appreciate them when they were here and the legacy they left behind.

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  10. Sonya Moffitt
    Mr.sheuer hr.6
    8/27/17

    I feel like the ghosting tech should be used at the actor or actress content.I think it should be used if they are to busy for that particular movie or have past away. I like the idea that it is being used in movies.

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  11. Colton Vander Berg
    Scheuer
    Modern Fiction
    August 27
    It always impresses me how much Hollywood can do whenever I read a brief article like this. Remaking a person's image seemed to be impossible 5-10 years ago and now studios can do it with ease it seems like. In the article, fans complained that they were getting robbed of what they saw because the person they saw on the screen wasn't the real actor. To me, if the image is close enough, I wouldn't care, depending on what the studio is making the actor's likeness do. Studios should be fine to use this technology if they don't force the image to do any actions out of the actor's previous work. The actor's image shouldn't be ruined by a Hollywood studio that wants to add a little bit of controversial content in their film or movie. If studios keep their morals in line with this technology, I feel like it will be beneficial to studios, especially those who have unexpected deaths happen to lead characters in their film or movie.

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  12. Jalaya Ellis
    Mr. Scheur
    Modern Fiction - Hour 8
    27 September 2017

    After reading this astonishing article I feel both appalled and amazement. I feel appalled that anyone is even thinking of recreating the rolls of Grand Moff Tarkin and Princess Leia (played by both Carrie Fisher and Peter Cushing). They both are dead and shouldn't try to recreate their image of them even if it isn't real. I strongly believe it would be mockery, in a way. They made a legacy and made a difference in their acting career when they where alive. Now, unfortunately they are dead and no one should be able to use their face and voice for their own benifit. It is disrespectful to use something that doesn't belong to you especially if they are unable to give consent. I also am amazed at the technology that they can do for good. I understand that Ben Affleck is a busy man with a busy schedule such as, Benedict Cumberbatcn (who play the rolls of Batman and Dr. Strange). It is amazing how they have advanced technology to actually digitally have a celebrity be somewhere they aren't. This can benefit them a lot and help release stress and issues with schedules. Not only is it amazing for them it would be amazing to see. It can also be something that is consenting which is respectful.

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  13. Noah Kurozawa
    Mr Scheuer
    Modern Fiction-Hour 6
    27 September 2017
    Reading about how companies can use CGI to create fake and realistic looking characters. Its amazing to see how much technology has changed and how it has affected the world of movies. Star Wars took it all to a new level though, being able to create the face of someone who is no longer alive. I think that the way technology has rose has been amazing, and being able to see it in action is cool. People will now start trying to top the work of Star Wars because they took it to the next level. The animations will just continue to get better over time.

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  14. Deshea McDonald
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern fiction Hour 6
    August 28 2017

    I don't think digital characters should exist mainly because I think its weird and wrong. Especially if someone is dead to see someone that is not them talk and walk and for actors that are too busy to play a role get time to wear they can or have them do there seens all at once.

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  15. Kaleb Tatum
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 8
    27 August 2017

    I believe that ghosting technology has some benefits to film making. First, it is more convenient for actors and actresses who may not be able to be in certain places at certain times. This could make for more cost effective filmmaking not having to pay for travel, etc. Also, as creepy as it may be, it allows famous actors and actresses to potentially be used in a sequel after their death. But with this, comes the risk of ruining their legacy in something they cannot defend, so this has to be done very carefully. Also, nothing will beat a film that is made with real life actors in real time. All in all, I think ghosting technology can have a large effect on this industry, allowing for less money to be spent on big productions.

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  16. Assata Sellers


    Mr.Scheuer


    Modern Fiction-6


    25 August 2017


    In my opinion I don’t think that this action is right, I'm not too fond of directors thought of continuing a dead person's legacy I don’t think that its fair for them to have to gain a bad reputation because a director wants them in their movie. I know for a fact that the actor/actress has worked hard to maintain their legacy and reputation so for someone to think that it's okay to add them in a movie to me is wrong. I think its disrespectful, not only to the one that has passed on but to their family as well I think out of respect for the family I believe that it would be best if they just allowed them rest in peace and let their family mourn in peace. The only way that I might find it okay is if the actor died in the middle of directing the movie, keeping the movie going would be the only acceptable way to me. In conclusion bothering the dead to me is morally wrong and disrespectful and I don’t think that its respectful.



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  17. SemaJ Handford

    Mr. Scheuer

    Modern Fiction - Hour 8

    28 August 2017

    This movie's body double is completely disrespectful in my mind because the actor died and they still went on with the movie. The "Body Double" should only be allowed if the actual actor's alive and they approve of it or if they died and their family approves of it. Movies like "All Eyez on Me" or "Straight Outta Compton" are completely fine because they are respecting people's lives and legacies. Other than those reasons, I don't believe a person should have a body double, in respect of the actor's death. Like the article says, it would be "cheating the audience" to have another person act out the rest of the movie. This got me questioning if other celebrities are themselves or are they dead and someone is replacing them. They are taking this "Body Double" thing way to far if it meant having someone else be them. The movie will not be the same no matter how hard they try.

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  18. Calvin Brown Mr. Scheuer Modern fiction-Hour 8 28 August 2017
    I think the British actor should be able to shoot his scenes whenever he wants. No one else's opinion should matter to him. He should be free to do his own thing whenever he wants.

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  19. Jada C Washington
    Me.Sheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 6
    28 August 2017
    Not only will the concept of "Ghosting" change Hollywood, but the world as well. Accepting the procedure will only make the human race more "robotic" than it already is. For years now there has been this theory that one day Robots will take over the human race, and practicing "Ghosting" is doing nothing, but getting us a step closer to making that theory a fact. In my opinion, the more technology advances the more we fall behind. Technology has made life so easy to the point where we don't even have to technically live it anymore.. This is unacceptable and I feel we have reached our limits with it all. We have enough. Our minds are already not our minds anymore why make is worse and do the same with our flesh? We've already given technologiy our minds why make it worse and give it our flesh?

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  20. LeAnn Huynh
    Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 8
    28 September 2017

    With today's modern technology, we are able to create cinematic experiences for audiences using the method of 'ghosting.' 'Ghosting' is a unique term used but it simply means that the editors can bring back to life deceased people in order to give a film the special touch an actor gave towards the project. It's easier to understand than explain. I think the use of 'ghosting' is essentially really cool but it can be debated about on terms of morality. Some actors make a character iconic like Carrie Fisher's role as Princess Leia in Star Wars. In this sense, die-heart fans wouldn't oppose to using the technique because of how much she means to the character and plot line. But others would bring up the point that it isn't right to basically bring someone back from the dead without their permission. It seems as if their existence was only worthwhile for film and nothing more as a person.

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  21. Briana Bynum

    Mr.Scheuer

    Modern Fiction Hour 8

    28 September 2017


    Ghosting in Hollywood seems to have become very popular in giving the audience a way of having they're favorite actor or actress come back and play a part in a movie role and for the director they would bring back the fan favorites for the box office receipts. Also with the A-list stars they sometimes don’t have time with they're busy schedule so they use ghosting from the old movies that they had done to film the scene. The Marvel movies use green screens set ups for the fantasy scenes that would be shown though the scenes are in fact superior to real backdrops as for example Guardians of the Galaxy. Technology has really advanced and is not the same as it was when they shot the Deep Blue Sea in the multiplex, directors are now shooting entire adventure filmed movies like the Jungle Book with talking animals, cliffs, and forest in a warehouse that look like it took place in India. When a new technology comes in Hollywood it happens because it introduced a verve that made every filmmaker want to do it as well. Ghosting is good in some aspects to filmmaking with creating fantasy back rounds and scenes to make things or animals come to life. There are standards to film making don't use a actor that died in the first movie and bring them back to the second it's confusing to the audience and unfair to them and the story line.

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  22. Trinity Wilder
    Mr. Scheuer
    Modern Fiction - Hour 8
    28 August 2017


    Ghosting is becoming bigger and bigger every day. Characters may die or age horrifically and the director resorts to what we call ghosting. Ghosting could be very useful but there are standards, I feel like the person you are "ghosting" should need permission and if that person has passed you should contact their family and see if it is ok with them. I feel ghosting should continue as long as they are notified that it is happening.

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  23. Kyle dyer
    Mr. Scherer
    Modern fiction 8hr
    28 August 2017

    This actual pretty smart to do when an actor dies to keep them in a role especially if no one else can play that role like that actor. It aslp helps the movie plot depending wats going so the movie comes to play like it's suppose to. It's good for the fans too so thwy can see they favorite character or actor in the movie dead or not. If i was a director and someone told me to use this technique I would use so we can make a great movie but also to get bad. For some people this can be a remembrance of this actor or bring everyones favorite actor or character back.

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  24. Bria Brame
    Mr. Scheuer
    28 August 2017
    Modern Fiction

    I like how they made it so he could be 2 places at once. We should know by now how advances digital computers are now, just like you can't tell the difference from a real person and the digital one. I find it very interesting how technical and fun movies are getting.

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  25. Afrika Hamilton

    Mr. Scheuer

    Modern Fiction Hour 8

    28th August 2017

    As I was reading this article I realized how much the worlds technology is changing, so drastically that you can digitally use someones image without them being present. Being someone who used to want to be an actress I don't know how I would feel about someone using my face if I was dead or unable consent to the material that is being used. I believe that this method of filming takes away the art of acting in general. Most people go into the field of acting for the purpose of being able to make the character your own and with this method it takes away from the actor/actress.

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  26. Preh Reh

    Mr.Scheuer

    Modern Fiction-8 Hour

    28 August 2017

    The ghosting technology has made a big change in movies. It is possible for the dead person to be in a movie without them being there by using the ghosting technology. The ghost tech can impact the films positively and negatively. It's could lead to a poor film and messes things up. It could also confuse the audience by comparing which person is real or fake. On the other hand, it's bring things to life by making animals talk and easier for the film maker to not go places. I agree that ghosting technology is a great tech, but the films maker needs time to decide when its an appropriate time to use it.

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  27. Rayanna Stamps

    Mr.Scheuer

    Modern Fiction Hour 8

    28th September 2017

    The term "ghosting" in Hollywood has become a very popular method used with today technology. It can very to an actor just not being able to make a shoot or they don't even have to be alive to be in a new movie. However, it is known that Marvel movies usually use green screen setups for the fantasy scenes. But if needed the actors would shoot against real backdrops to help with that specific scene. Today it doesn't necessarily matter exactly WHERE the movie is being shot at. Like for the 'Jungle Book' Neel Sethi was no where near the location of the actual movie, but in a warehouse. Technology was used in this case to create photo-realistic talking animals, cliffs, and forest all without stepping out of the studio. The new technology in Hollywood is introduced by one film-maker and it causes a ripple that leads to many other film-makers wanting to use the same thing (usually bigger and better). Ghosting's tech has not yet reached its full strength but is predicted that it will be in many years to come. Although this new tech is very helpful inside studio walls, they want to be careful to make sure that the audience is not being cheated or being treated unfair. 'Rogue One' has made a very big impact on film-making and film-making to come in the future.

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  28. Cylia Robinson
    Mr.Scheuer
    Modern Fiction Hour 6
    28 August 2017
    I feel as though ghpsting is a good thing because it keeps the actors and actresses that everybody loves in the picture. It also can be very efficient for the actors or actresses to be in two places at one time. I really didn't know much about ghosting or even knew that it existed. And I didn't notice it in any movies that were talked about in the article. I also feel that ghosting should somewhat benefit the families of the people they are ghosting. Because even after their deceased you are still using their image and making it seem like they're there in person so why not pay the families. But other than that I loved the article.

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  29. Myell Mccoy

    Mr. Scheuer

    Modern Fiction hour 6

    28 September 2017


    As I read the article about "ghosting" I found it very interesting how they are able to make a digital person. Ghosting is a very efficient technique, for instance as the article said actors are very busy and sometimes can't make to set. Though it also makes me question what is the point for actors? This ghosting could take a huge toll over Hollywood and could become a thing . Though where would that leave actors?

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  30. Dylan Johnson
    Mr.Scheuer
    Modern Fiction- 6th Hour
    August 28 2017

    I believe that it is very cool and interesting that we have the technology to basically bring actors/actresses back to life in film. Being able to bring a passed main character in a movies trilogy or series gives directors the ability to possibly have one final movie as kind of like a send off or a conclusion to all the other movies. Some could be able to argue that the actors/actresses never got a chance to objectify their use of their likeness in films which is a fair point, but if we really think about it, if an essential character in a movie trilogy died before the making of the third movie there’s a pretty big chance that the actor/actress in question would’ve starred in the movie so I don’t see any problems. There’s also the fact that the directors have no intention to disrespect the deceased when they use them in movie. I’d be willing to bet they have the best intentions when using them in the films, maybe to even honor them with that movie itself.

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  31. Isaiah Cordova

    Mr.Scheuer

    Modern fiction Hour 6

    28 August 2017



    Technology has greatly evolved over the years. For Hollywood this is a great thing. It is great because it gives film makers the ability to cast an actor in a movie without them shooting a single scene. Disney/marvel is no stranger to cgi, for example peter cushing was in rogue one and hes been dead for a while, Benedict Cumberbatch as doctor strange some of his scenes for the upcoming avengers film ar cgi due to his tight schedule. Another example is paul walker in fast and furious series, he died but was still able to be cgi'd in the fast and furious 7 movie. This opens a great opportunity for film makers to get films done quickly and not have to worry about the movie production being halted because an actors schedule is to tight or an actor has died or is going through something

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  32. Malcolm liston

    Mr.scheuer

    Modern fiction hour 8

    28 august 2017

    Ghosting in Hollywood is kind of cool and odd at the same time fist off I would say its useful or cool because it can reenact your favorite actor in movies or in concerts or if the person has passed away they can use it as like a memorial for a example when Michael Jackson died they used a ghosting image of him in concert to make it look like he is really there they've done the same for Tupac in concert also. green screens have become really huge too because now the person doesn't have to actually go to the places to seem like they are there only thing they have to do now is use computers to simulate like they are in action or in the place a lot of movies use green or blue screens now like marvel the jungle book uses it a lot because the boy is in the wild the whole time its also safer for the actors and stunt doubles to go to a green screen rather than actually going out to the set to do it.

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  33. Ku Mo

    Mr.Scheuer

    Modern Fiction Hour 8

    28 August 2018

    Films of the living dead


    The story of ghosting' sound uncanny to me and it is difficult. Its involving great efforts to make it look identical/real. It's great that the film went well, thanks to technology, but the technology isn't quite there yet. It's a shock, as a fan, to see someone who'd been dead to come back. It's unpleasant. Try to bring back dead alive? It probably won't be as good as the old one. The technology is not good enough. New technology makes an impact in Hollywood in both positive and negative ways. The younger fans might not notice it, but it would be hard for those who have been fans of Star War for such a long time. CGI can't still replace the original actors yet. Is the technology providing a realistic portrayal? It might create future ethical problems in the industry. It would be sad to see Crushing digitally recreated. What will happen to the real actors/actresses then?

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  34. Ashley Moses

    Mr. Scheuer

    Modern Fiction-(Hour 8)

    27 August 2017




    I felt like the article was very interesting and informational, but I wouldn't want someone to use me for ghosting. I feel as if it can be good and bad. Good meaning if someone who was suppose to play a role unexpectedly passed away, then that would be the perfect time to use ghosting. It is also bad though because they can portray your character as a bad person or change their characteristics. Personally, I think it really isn't a good idea.

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  35. Emmanuel Brookshire

    Ghosting in Hollywood is something that everyone use to know about but not very much anymore after they stop putting as much effort in to it. That's what it looks like to me , and the actors that made things good and had people knowing about ghosting Hollywood are now making it go down hill because they don't have as much time on there hands with it as they did when things start happening. Now that that's happening they are trying to put different actors in its messing up with the old ones when they come back and thats what i got out of Ghosting in Hollywood on Films of the Living Dead - Blog post #1

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  36. Zack Baas
    Mr. Scheuer

    Modern Fiction 8th Hour

    8-29-17




    Reading over the blog Rogue One's CGI resurrection tech: how 'ghosting' will change Hollywood , I Thought it had a rather strange introduction/ segway to Star Wars : Rogue One . Starting of by talking about Dr. Strange being in two places at once and using an acronym MCU thinking that the reader will know to think of Marvel comic universe. I had know clue that Marvel did not use a lot of green screen in there work , found that interesting. it is although fascinating how far CGI has come and how realistic it can look now. I don't think the word ghosting is a decent word to use for a actor that was brought back to life soulfully for the purpose of making a film, Hollywood could come up with a more appropriate work or common word for the advance and directors to use.

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  37. Josiah Hedrington

    Mr.Scheuer

    Modern Fiction 8th

    9-2-17

    I read this article and found some very intriguing things and I also found a lot of things that are different now than they have been. To stay on topic I feel cloning should only be allowed if someone passes away during the making of the movies such as Paul Walker did during the making of "Fast & Furious 7" . I say this because technology has such an advanced factor today than it has ever had, which can also cause people to say things they wouldn't or cause them to actually act thoughts and ideas. I also feel as if "ghosting" is also bad technique because it may offend any others watching or even the fans. With all of that being said I disagree to the "ghosting" procees I wouldn't let anyone use my face to be able to say something I wouldn't and do something I wouldn't

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  38. Geremiah Paige
    Mr.Scheur
    Modern Fiction 8th
    10-17-17

    I think that the idea of "ghosting" would only be fine in certain situations. I like that it can be used to continue an actor's legacy but at the same time I don't think it should be used as a full person throughout a movie. I get that you have that actor in your mind but don't use that power you have to make an actor that is passed away be in a full movie they were't apart of to film themselves. That part I find disrespectful. But if being used to pay respect or remembrance than I love it in that use.

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